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Orin Kerr and the responsibility of elites for the last eight years

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As the Bush administration comes to a close, one overarching question is this:  how were the transgressions and abuses of the last eight years allowed to be unleashed with so little backlash and resistance?  Just consider -- with no hyperbole -- what our Government, our country, has done.  We systematically tortured people in our custody using techniques approved at the highest levels, many of whom died as a result.  We created secret prisons -- "black site" gulags -- beyond the reach of international monitoring groups.  We abducted and imprisoned even U.S. citizens and legal residents without any trial, holding them incommunicado and without even the right to access lawyers for years, while we tortured them to the point of insanity. We disappeared innocent people off the streets, sent them to countries where we knew they'd be tortured, and then closed off our courts to them once it was clear they had done nothing wrong.  We adopted the very policies and techniques long considered to be the very definition of "war crimes".   Our Government turned the NSA apparatus inward -- something that was never supposed to happen -- spying on our conversations in secret and without warrants or oversight, all in violation of the law, and then, once revealed, acted to immunize the private-sector lawbreakers.  And that's to say nothing about the hundreds of thousands of people we killed and the millions more we displaced with a war launched on false pretense.  And on and on and on.

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I'm seeding this because it needs to be said. This is where Bush led us, and more importantly, this is where we agreed to be led. If we don't acknowledge that mistake we'll end up there again, even assuming Obama repeals all this horror.

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Reply#1 - Sun Nov 9, 2008 4:31 PM EST
{"commentId":5941682,"authorDomain":"kokayi"}

Great seed. I'm getting tired of the debate though. I wish it was over already. This reminds me of the back and forth after Nixon's resignation. Sometimes something is so blatently wrong debating with those to clueless to get it a waste of energy.

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#1.1 - Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:22 PM EDT
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